Ms. growing girl 20,
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i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Ms. growing girl 20,
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Wow, it's amazing the discussion that was started from two blank post. Only on Jehovah's-Witnesses.net :)
reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.
(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.
it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.
While the 144,000 may at some point no longer be a literal number, the representatives of the 144,000 and more importantly the governing body will still have control over the other sheep.
This is done by the belief that the 144,000 are the true members of the body of Christ and are the vanguards of the new covenant. Following this line of thinking the only way the other sheep can have blessings from God and the new covenant is through association with the 144,000. As long as this remains there will still be cultic control over the majority of Jehovah's Witnesses. Until the belief that the rank-and-file must associate with the 144,000 and their representatives stays intact there is really no change.
I am not trying to say that this is an insignificant change. It may cause some to start questioning, which is always great. But, the devastating effects of this doctrine are going to remain, as it is one of the main ways that the rank-and-file are kept in submission.
@cyber Jesus. If you are asking when the 144,000 doctrine first began to be used, it predates Russell in the Adventist movement. Though Russell put his own spin on it, the doctrine and was by no means originally his. It really did not take the shape that it has today until Judge Rutherford. I have been meaning for some time to make a thorough post about the development of this doctrine. Perhaps I should gather up all my research and post a new topic about it.
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i do remember, but can't seem to find it, a watchtower comment that stated.
" relatives must decide on the emotiional needs of the df'd relatives to see what limited contact would be necessary".
does anyone remember this?.
@New Chapter, that is discusting, could you imagine Chris Jesus doing such?
since most of us believed it was right around the corner, how many of you went to any secondary schools or training?
what do you do now to survive?
are you working or unemployed?
Firefighter in Alabama.
the teaching company's catalogue has long had me drooling.
the prices dried up the saliva.
my local library is now stocking the courses offered by several companies.
You have a PM.
so i read the book... i thought it was brilliant!.
any suggestions?.
timmy xxx.
In Search of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz
first, i wouldn't have seen this w/o simon's jwn, publishingcult's bible humor thread, sweetbabycheezits' non stamp collector link, and non stamp collector.
i've always heard this, but this is the first time i've actually seen it for myself!.
jephthah and his daughter.
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i know that some dubs who write material for the wtbts that are not of the 'faithful slave'.
when the non-anointed finish the material it is to be approved by someone appointed from the gb to check the material.
i am not sure that this is the correct picture, please correct if i am wrong.
I know that some dubs who write material for the WTBTS that are not of the 'faithful slave'. When the non-anointed finish the material it is to be approved by someone appointed from the GB to check the material. I am not sure that this is the correct picture, please correct if I am wrong. Here are some questions that follow from that...
-Has the society every published anything stating that non-anointed JW write significant amounts of material for the WTBTS?
-Is all the material reviewed word-for-word by the 'slave' or GB before publishing?
-Are the any of the anointed on the writing staff, besides the overseers?
-How much of the published material is written by the 'sheep'?